Sunday, September 16, 2007

Maintaining Good Proximity

Maintaining good proximity and with a friendly manner is a major way of preventing classroom management problems.

What makes this work and how?

64 comments:

Ellen said...

This approach is less likely to make students react adversely than simply telling them off. It reminds them what behaviour is expected while offering help for the cause of their inattention - difficulty with the question paper.

Anonymous said...

It's an interesting approach to nip the problem in the bud before it gets out of control.
No scolding is involved either.

Anonymous said...

Friendly approach but students might take advantage of you or take you for granted. Learn to win their respect.

Anonymous said...

This approach is more effective to gain confidence among students. However, need to be careful so that they should not take advantage of the teacher.

Anonymous said...

If I had laid the ground rules already and the students still play cards in the classroom... I will hand them an extra credit project.

Anonymous said...

I suppose this is a good way of building rapport with the students. Building a friendship. However if such method does not work the first 3 times, I suppose I will do it the hard way. What is the hard way? I have yet figured that out...hahhaha

Anonymous said...

there is still the posibility that they may take advantage of you when u are too friendly. we must learn to gain respect from them.

Anonymous said...

Students Playing cards
"GET OUT OF MY CLASS and MAKE A TRIP TO GENTING" yell the Lecturer but not me, I will start a project for them specially titled "Construction of a casino with cards playing" and tell them to exibit in the next Spinnovex!

Anonymous said...

very diffcult to comment... it's like playing devil and angel at the same time. In my opinion, it will have to depend on the character of the student you are dealing with at that time...if you are very strict and pose like a diffcult teacher at 1st, maybe it might be easy to be friendly later...whereas it will not work the other way round.. so, it depends on situation. maybe not too friendly in the begining.

Anonymous said...

Being friendly with students is good approach, students will respect the teacher more if they are treated like adults.

Anonymous said...

I like the "friendly" intrusion method... and wham before you know it you have got their cards.

notice there is no money on the table... someone ought to teach these kids how to play cards

Anonymous said...

Such an approach is not just about being friendly, but a purposeful and no nonsense approach too. It's a fine balance. But I think it's better this way, and slices through students who are trying their very best to keep on disrupting. Tried that before, but I needed to put in more 'intensity'. Thing is it doesn't end just here. After that if the lecturer bump into the student again outside class time, he/she must be able to maintain a friendly attitude and talk to the student. Else relations will go downhill.

Anonymous said...

The approach taken by the lecturer is firm. The "no nonsense" attitude and yet friendly will win the respect from the students in a way. This is surely much better than to reprimand them right in their face... But of course there is a danger of the students simply ignoring the lecturer...

Anonymous said...

I liked this approach.Mark effectively keeps the cards and the leg off the table in a friendly manner without creating unncessary tension, even when one of the student respond in an agitated manner.However have to keep a fine line to prevent the student from climbing over the head.This soft skill need some practising though.

Anonymous said...

i agree, direct confrontation will not lay down well on teenagers nowadays.

Anonymous said...

This is a soft approach to generate the students' interests. Students will not feel that they are being singled out. Direct confrontation may de-motivative the students from the course.

Anonymous said...

This is a good way, if you are friendly to the students and show your care, its easier to establish a rapport with students.

Anonymous said...

Yes. Agree.

Anonymous said...

Firm and friendly. It helps with the lecturer reasons with the students and make them feel like they are treated as adults.

Adrian said...

yes, at their age, we should not treat them the way they do in primary or secondary schools. Maintain our composure and not lose our temper in dealing with difficult situations.

ps. this blog thingy, does it come with spell check?:) This requirement for word verification, can make do without it?

Anonymous said...

There is a saying in Chinese, "先礼后兵“. The good should come first but also prepare for the worst.

Anonymous said...

This friendly approach is definitely a non-confrontational approach. However, if the students do not improve their behaviour the next time, I think an even firmer tone or action is needed.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the way Mark has performed in the video. We need to be friendly and interrupt what they are doing in a nice way.

Anonymous said...

I think if I were the students, I will appreciate what the lecturer did. The lecturer interrupted the students' misbehaviours in a caring approach. Although he took the cards from the students, I believe the students knew that the lecturer was caring for them and would like to make sure they got into the tutorial questions to learn something. This is a good approach to help students to learn something from the tutorial questions by personally involving in their discussions to guide them through.

Anonymous said...

When you lose your temper, you lose control. That's true but at times, I think it's not a bad thing to display our temper. It can be an effective way to get a message across strongly to students who misbehave. Thereafter, I would walkthrough the lessons with the clas patiently. I call this tough love.

Anonymous said...

The best way is to lead by example and use a soft approach towards aggressive students.

Anonymous said...

We don't have much of a choice do we. Ha.
The character Mark played displayed a positive method by a lecturer. It should be taken as an example.
What we could also do is to single out the potential attention seekers and speak to them after class that you appreciate their participation in class. This may further encourage them to be positively active in class the next time round.

Anonymous said...

It looks a good way worth for a try. However, I feel it may not be fair to the rest of the class if we have over spent a lot of time with a small group of misbehaved students.

Anonymous said...

I don’t think this is good. The lecturer may find the way to bring students back to discussion. But he failed to teach students about responsibility. I wonder how students will survive in industries. Probably get fired on the spot.

Anonymous said...

ya, i think this approach goes down better with the students. doesn't make them lose face - a very important matter for this age group.

Anonymous said...

I think this is a good method as it has worked for me. When I find students who are weak and start to play games, initially it is difficult to approach them without the desire to scold but when I ask how is their work going and intrude into their personal space and start to explain things in a warm friendly manner, usually they give in.

wai leng said...

"Friendly and firm" certainly works better than an antagonistic ticking off plus confiscation of cards! It'd be interesting to see if some students decide to push further and not give up their cards to the teacher.

Anonymous said...

It's easier if we were to put ourselves as students. What would we expect our teachers to help us.
There is not hard and fast rules, especially when dealing with student-teacher rapport.

NJK

Anonymous said...

It's a good way of keeping the students' pride. However, we must remember to be firm while we are friendly.

Faith Lee said...

As a female lecturer, with some of the guys bigger size & louder than me, it is not wise to go head on to address bad behaviour. For hard core students who are loud and rowdy, best to use the soft approach, that is talking to them nicely to get them to do work on to conform. Teenagers care alot about their face so i avoid scolding or embarrassing them in front of the class. Just have to talk to them nicely.

Anonymous said...

I remember one tutorial class (software design, quite dry), the student turned on the PC, started up MS-word and IE and spent his time surfing when I wasn't watching, and working what I was.
I annoyed me a lot, especially when I come to him & he quickly switches and pretends nothing was happening.

Anonymous said...

Cannot tahan leh.... the lecturer too friendly. B-I-G size, but.... like a gentle giant.
Playing cards is totally unacceptable in class. Agree that sometime must give face.... but how abt my face? I'll lose face if I don't act firm on such behaviour.

Anonymous said...

The students may just want to test the teacher’s patience. Dealing with them in a cool manner (though you’re boiling inside) and even better when help is being offered. The fact that they are still in the classroom, I think they are still capable of listening to ‘friendly suggestions’ and maybe less possible to instructions or order.

Anonymous said...

Playing cards while they should be working on the tutorials is pretty bad in terms of attitude. A negative attitude is portrayed. If Mark came on with a negative attitude, the situation may have gone his way but with negative consequences. I felt the handling to take away the cards and help them to work on what they were supposed to be doing was a good step. Often I tend to correct someone i.e. take away their cards, but not the follow up step to say "hey what's the problem, how can I help you do what you need to do?".

Only thing I felt a little off was Mark's question as to why his hand was not dealed. I guess if the dealer did start to deal his hand, it won't be all that hard to turn him down and continue encouraging them to work on their tutorials, but that question may have been a little unnecessary, but at the same time, it was a possible ice breaker as well.

Unknown said...

If this happens in my class, it will take a lot of effort on my part to stay calm or not raise my voice. What the lecturer did to diffuse the interruptive situation was good except that i would not ask to join in their card game. So do you join them if you are dealt the cards? If you dont, they will call your bluff. It is better to be firm, take the cards (or the source of distraction) away till the end of the lesson, tell them they will get them back if they complete your tasks.

Anonymous said...

Whatever happens, it would be more constructive to keep our cool so that we can think clearly and respond appropriately. It's best to diffuse situations in a firm but friendly manner. When students are embarassed, they may become aggressive and that'll be tough.

Tek said...

In class room context, this is a terrorist situation, I need quick actions to avoid further disruptions.
I will give them special tea break time and I will explain to the class my problem. I believe they will stop playing cards outside the classroom and will complete the assignment when they come back.
Luckly, I was told I dont have to_ slow kids in my class.

Anonymous said...

Gambling at premises outside those provisioned by the Societies Act is illegal.

I would ask the student to put their legs down, instead of Mark's "pushing" the student's leg down because students might felt threaten and reacted physically, such as boxing Mark on the face.

Anonymous said...

I think the friendly "disruption" must come earlier, eg before they begin playing the cards. If it is any later, i think they will feel intrusive.

So the teacher must be alert and have situational awareness so that he/she is always ready to intercept these kind of small "disruption" which will then break the vicious cycle.

Anonymous said...

Telling them to stop in harsh tone/manners may make things ugly & embarrassing for the Lect if they refuse to follow. Think its cool for the Lect to deal with it calmly & slowly.

Anonymous said...

I would think that the Lecturer in the clip is cool. It would be tough to handle students like those in the video. If I am the student, I would be touched by the "caring" and non-hostile approach adopted by this Lecturer.

Anonymous said...

Well, this is better then having a heat argument with your students. This approach may soften the negative attitudes of the students.

Anonymous said...

Being friendly with the students is good,but they should also respect the teachers.Laying down groun rules helps.

Anonymous said...

Interesting to know/see how the problem was dealt with - instead of the conventional "please put your cards aside" which would have likely ended up in a confrontation with the student. I suppose important to approach them calmly and not let them see you 'affected'!!

Anonymous said...

Wow, this is tough to handle! I agree that being cool and reasonable is the way to go; that way, you take the moral highground and avoid a nasty confrontation, which could affect interaction not just with this one student, but with the rest of the class, who would all have witnessed the episode and made their own judgements of the lecturer. Honestly, though? I have to say that faced with hostility and disrespect in such an uncalled-for manner, I would have difficulty keeping a check on my temper. It will be difficult to remain unaffected.

Sharon said...

Approaching the students in a friendly and assertive manner is a win-win situation for both the lecturer and student. The student will not feel challenged and the lecturer will be able to get the students to listen.

Kim Nam said...

I think that this style might not be able to apply to all. As a male lecturer to female student, female lecturer to male student. But the idea to stand firm and yet be helpful is important.

Anonymous said...

this is a taichi 太极 approach. Being gentle can be powerful.

Unknown said...

Instructor behaviors observed:
1. Firm but courteous => "I respect you"
2. Confident and cool
3. Use proximity => "I care"
4. Confiscate cards but return later => "I honor my word"
Good vid.

CTC said...

I think this is a win-win approach. However, the uphill task after that is to how to win over their respect and not let them take advantage of you that they can do whatever they want in class.

Anonymous said...

The lecturer has presented a very good approach to handle situation with a non-confrontational and matured manner. It is a good example for the students and they will learn to respect the lecturer for his patience and positive attitude towards teaching.

Chee Pieu said...

If good rapport has been built, students know that you are of “no nonsense” type and whatever decisions make is towards our common objectives, they might not have mis-behaved in front of me unless there are certain frustrations among themselves. However, this sentence might be a bit naive towards students although it serves me in the industry. LET”S CHECK IT OUT….

carmen chan yuen mun said...

This approach is fantastic1 yes, human has feeling. When you are trying to be soft to them, thwy fwwl guilty to ruin the condition too.When this happen, quickly bring them back to the topic. Patience is important at this point

Asad said...

The keyword here is PATIENCE! This is what I believe a lecturer must always bear in mind. Confronting a naughty student with anger would not really solve the problem but acting in such a way that the student him/her self feels guilt would be a way better approach.

Asad said...

The keyword here is PATIENCE! This is what I believe a lecturer must bear in mind. Confronting a naughty student with anger would not really solve the problem but reacting in such a way that the student him/her self feels guilt would be a way better approach.

Francis Mah said...

Nice approach to defuse the situation and bring the students back to the tutorials.

Louise said...

An wise approach demonstrated in teh video. It is a challenge to keep your cool even when the students are misbehaving. Best to remind them of the agreed ground rules at that point and appeal to the students need to complete the subject (so they don't have to repeat it).

ben said...

mark took a good approach by remainign calm and collected. He gently reminded them of the need to study for the exams which are coming up. He took away the cards but promised to return them. win win for both

Anonymous said...

I think the more defiant student would just walk all over the teacher in a real-life situation...this approach can work if the students are 'naughty' or 'bored' and not intent on disrupting the lesson